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Who was your favorite James Bond?

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Your favorite Bond actor?

Sean Connery
5
36%
George Lazenby
0
No votes
Roger Moore
4
29%
Timothy Dalton
2
14%
Pierce Brosnan
2
14%
Daniel Craig
1
7%
 
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Who was your favorite James Bond?

Postby raymondu999 on Tue Nov 06, 2012 12:47 pm

With the recent release of Skyfall, I have some curious questions to ask.

What are your personal favorite Bonds?

I personally haven't been a fan of the latest Craig Bond. Not because of Craig himself nor his acting, but because of the way they've changed to a more "human" character. I loved the suave, smoothie James Bond who was always invincible. He was always so cool and calm that he would never forgo the opportunity for a quip.

I find the latest Bond with too many weaknesses, and too "human." I preferred the "pointless fun" type character invincibility of the pre-reboot James Bonds. Of course this is all personal preference. Some will undoubtedly like the new way Bond is written.

Who are your picks?

Actors who have played Bond:
Sean Connery - 6 movies
George Lazenby - 1 movie
Roger Moore - 7 movies
Timothy Dalton - 2 movies
Pierce Brosnan - 4 movies
Daniel Craig - 3 movies
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Re: Who was your favorite James Bond?

Postby Paul on Tue Nov 06, 2012 2:44 pm

1 Roger Moore
2 Sean Connery
3 David Niven :p
4 Lazenby
5 Brosnan
6 Dalton
7 Craig

Just my choices as to whom fitted the Bond character.
Dan Craig is only on the bottom because, although he is a good actor, to me he just doesnt fit the part.. I dont like the latest Bond movies either :confused:
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Re: Who was your favorite James Bond?

Postby f1datavis on Tue Nov 06, 2012 4:12 pm

About a year ago, I started reading Casino Royale and read most of the Bond novels from there. Didn't bother so much with the short stories.

I used to love Connery in the role, but after reading the books I really fell in love with Timothy Dalton's portrayal.

Bond is a bit of a dick, a fish out of water. The books make it clear that he is seen as a bit of an odd fish by his colleagues. He has few friends, is a bit of a loner, is very selfish and demanding in the way he deals with women. He is not very suave, not very cool. Bond is to all intents and purposes a government paid assassin, and is therefore tolerated in his cold and calculating behaviour.

Dalton clearly went for the literary Bond rather than the Connery, Moore or Brosnan Bond. Lazenby, Dalton and yes, Craig, all fit I think closer to the original.

It comes down to this, Bond is not intended to be a nice guy. You wouldn't want to have a beer with him. He is a tortured soul.
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Re: Who was your favorite James Bond?

Postby Lawrence on Tue Nov 06, 2012 4:57 pm

1 Sean Connery
2. Dalton
3. Brosnan
4. Moore
5. Lazenby

Haven't seen the last three bond films for some reason. Used to be addicted to the series. Connery defined the role. Dalton and Brosnan were both very good. I rate them almost equal. Moore seemed to sleep walk through some of the movies, although Live and Let Die is one of the best Bond films. Lazenby needed an acting lesson or ten.

Brosnan as a slightly more sleazy character on the other hand is absolutely great (see Tailor of Panama, Thomas Crown Affair, The Matador). Better in those roles than as Bond.
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Re: Who was your favorite James Bond?

Postby tifosi77 on Wed Nov 28, 2012 2:03 am

f1datavis wrote:Lazenby, Dalton and yes, Craig, all fit I think closer to the original.

I'm the one vote for Craig. 8)
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Re: Who was your favorite James Bond?

Postby Ciro Pabón on Wed Nov 28, 2012 9:26 pm

1. Sean Connery
2. Sean Connery
3. Sean Connery
4. Sean Connery
5. Sean Connery
6. Sean Connery
7. Sean Connery

Bond humane? You must be kidding me.

Precisely, he´s inhumane and not only because he actually kills people in the name of the state (something that passes unperceived these days of people reduced to herds) but because he couldn't be less real. He's the opposite of humane.

He lives in Nowhere Land, surrounded by Nowhere Men.

He has "no point of view, knows not where he´s going to...." no principles at all: apparently you could send the guy to battle anyone, anywhere. He couldn't care less.



Mention a friend, mention a relative, mention a pastime, mention a hobby, mention a favorite author. He has none or they are incidental. Heck, the guy has no house, not even a room!

I have no doubt that you could google some of those things, but the character is not defined by his humanity. His only flaws are the ones that shows us that he has no flaws (immense headaches and alcoholism that apparently does not influence his sharpshooting abilities with guns and women).

The movies are successful because they show us what we think we would do if we did not care for people (women included).

In that regard, Connery seems to me the best actor: he has the sense of humour that many successors did not infuse in the character (specially the last batch) but he doesn't overact the humour (like Moore did: under his "command" many movies were reduced to a series of gags, specially the introductory one).

That is said by someone that actually has seen all the movies. In the theater.

The recent "humane" Bond is only the politically correct, pussified version we, men, are obliged to present nowadays in the view of the dictatorship of females that commands the US film industry. These days you can be a feminist but not a machist (or whatever is the English word for that notion).

In my view Bond is marketable because he has preceded the very inhumane, automated war, based in technology, deception, infiltrated agents and institutional bribes we witness these days, predicted many times in Science Fiction, where, for example, drones are acceptable.

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Re: Who was your favorite James Bond?

Postby Paul on Wed Nov 28, 2012 10:10 pm

Please send me some of the stuff you're smoking :rotflmao:
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Re: Who was your favorite James Bond?

Postby IanK on Thu Nov 29, 2012 11:38 am

1: Dalton
2: Connery
3: Craig
4: Goldeneye
5: Lazenby
6: Brosnan
7: Moore


I'll go ahead and say it. I can't stand Roger Moore's portrayal of James Bond. I have nothing against his acting abilities or personality, I just couldn't take him seriously enough. It's like Austin Powers if you cast a serious actor in the lead role instead of a comedian. Apart from Goldeneye, which was written under the impression that Dalton would still be Bond, I don't like Brosnan for the same reason... that and, let's be honest here, Die Another Day was horrible no matter how you look at it. Dalton has always been my favorite, even if Sean Connery is James Bond. His portrayal was both truer to the books and a bit of a backlash against the campy Moore portrayals. It was darker, grittier, and when he cracked a one-liner he came across more as a smartass and less as someone trying to be funny. That and, unlike suave pusshound Connery or cartoon superhero Moore he played Bond as an actual human, flaws and all. Daniel Craig does the same thing, but whenever I watch them I can't help but feel like I'm watching a Bourne movie.


Bit of a spoiler for the new one here, so ignore this part if you haven't seen it yet:
Oh, and Ralph Fiennes as the new M? Not sure I can really buy into that. I mean, he's a great actor but I just have such a hard time seeing him as something other than a villain.
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Re: Who was your favorite James Bond?

Postby _FoCuS_ on Sat Dec 01, 2012 9:28 am

I prefer to watch Roger Moore as 007. I like that movies. But othere bond movies not good for me. At old ones they were thinking and finding somethings you see and surprise about their thinking. But know they doesn't do anything new. New ones are straight action movies and not good action movies.
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Re: Who was your favorite James Bond?

Postby Ciro Pabón on Mon Dec 03, 2012 7:20 pm

Oh, puhleeze, Foc, all action movies are good, specially the ones with the gratuitous gore and artificial tits. They remind me of strawberry Jell-O: there are red and jiggly things all around.

I say: give me my weekly hour and a half of senseless violence and unnecessary sex, by all means.

However, I concur with Focus in one point: let's keep the Bergman crap for those guys who actually need to take those girls to that kind of movies before... you know. I confess: I was one of them (guys).

Whatever works for you, mates.

Now, you, partners: before I call all of you (not Adams, of course) an ignorant bunch of illiterate aficionados, ponder this: James Bond is the son of Andrew Bond, from Glencoe.

Glencoe is NOT London.

So, answer this: how in heaven can James Bond have a British accent? You're all mad, people.

Sean Connery is the only one who (seems) to actually have read all Bond books.

The party of wannabes that have followed him are pathetic imitations of a superb actor whose actoring heights are unreachable for those bad examples of propaganda coming from the filthy sewers of Hollywood, examples that you dare to put in senseless and unimaginative lists.

Do not do it again, please. My aneurysm could blow. Have pity of an old (and extremely well acquainted with Ian Fleming works) man: Zero P. Bond.
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Re: Who was your favorite James Bond?

Postby f1datavis on Mon Dec 03, 2012 8:42 pm

Ciro Pabón wrote:Now, you, partners: before I call all of you (not Adams, of course) an ignorant bunch of illiterate aficionados, ponder this: James Bond is the son of Andrew Bond, from Glencoe.

Glencoe is NOT London.

So, answer this: how in heaven can James Bond have a British accent? You're all mad, people.


For exactly the same reason he doesn't have a Swiss accent, as his mother was from Switzerland. Not everyone is brought up where their parents are from. Bond is a English public-school educated Royal Naval officer. You can bet your bottom dollar he would not have Connery-esque Scottish accent, and would talk with a strong "public-school" accent - think more David Cameron.

English boarding schools being what they were in the 1930s, he wouldn't have spent any time in Glencoe at all even if his parents lived there, which in itself is highly unlikely. From the age of 11, Bond was orphaned, and therefore we can presume that any influence on his accent by his father stopped. Andrew Bond is supposed to work at Vicker's as a sales rep, and the company's HQ for many many years was Vickers House, Westminster... er ... London.

Furthermore, to use your alliteration: Glencoe is NOT London, but neither is it Edinburgh. Connery has a very typical Edinburgh brogue, while someone from Glencoe is highly likely to have much softer Highlands accent. They are as different as someone from Manchester and another from Liverpool (30 miles apart but a million miles in terms of accent).

Lastly, there is supposition (not in the books etc.) that Bond studied at Fettes College in Edinburgh (as well as Eton, just west of London); but this is very unlikely to have affected his accent. Fettes' most famous Alumni is probably Tony Blair; hardly a Connery impersonator. Public schools are uber posh, and Fettes is one of the poshest - they would have been be a melting pot of the children of a world of British imperial bureaucrats.

You are talking utter tosh, as Bond would say. :) If anything, Connery's accent works as much against him being Bond as for him.
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Re: Who was your favorite James Bond?

Postby Funkmother on Sun Dec 09, 2012 7:18 am

Could only be Connery.
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Re: Who was your favorite James Bond?

Postby f1datavis on Sun Dec 09, 2012 9:19 am

Something else that just occurred to me - Connery spent quite a lot of time in the Bond movies doing a pretend RP accent. He was about as successful as his Russian accent in "The Hunt for Red October" (otherwise an excellent movie). If Bond is supposed to be Scottish, why would Connery put on a fake accent?

No, it is Dalton for me - all the way.
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Re: Who was your favorite James Bond?

Postby Lawrence on Tue Dec 11, 2012 7:19 pm

Poor George Lazenby, he gets no respect.
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Re: Who was your favorite James Bond?

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